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Meeting was opened.

Recognition of Vint Cerf and Robert Kahn on receiving the United States' Presidential Medal of Freedom

[Off the record discussion and voting by acclamation on a resolution honoring Vint Cerf and Robert Kahn on receiving the United States Presidential Medal of Freedom]

Compensation Committee Charter

(Off-the-record discussion)

>>VINT CERF: Let me try taking a voice vote here to find out whether we have unanimity.

All those in favor of this resolution, please say "aye."

>> Aye.

>>VINT CERF: Are there any opposed?

>>RAIMUNDO BECA: I'm opposed.

Raimundo.

>>VINT CERF: Raimundo is opposed. Okay.

Are there any other opposed?

Are there any abstentions?

Mr. Secretary, the proposition passes with one -- with one opposition, one vote "no." All others voted "yes."

So we've now established a --

>>RAIMUNDO BECA: I want to --

>>VINT CERF: -- Board Compensation Committee.

>>RAIMUNDO BECA: Vint, Vint.

>>VINT CERF: So thank you, Alex, for the work of the Governance Committee.

>>RAIMUNDO BECA: Vint.

>>VINT CERF: Yes, go ahead.

>>RAIMUNDO BECA: This is Raimundo.

I want to explain why I am opposed to. Because as I said in the -- in our workshop in Marina del Rey, I want to see the whole picture of the whole committees and not only one by one.

>>VINT CERF: I understand.

In fact, I apologize to all of you. I failed to remind you that we were entering into a recorded portion of the session. I didn't do that very well.

Do we know whether we have our captioning going on during this meeting?

John Jeffrey, are we captioning?

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Yes, we are capturing a voting transcript.

>>VINT CERF: Okay. So it should be apparent that when I called for the vote, we went on the record. Raimundo's comment should be on the record. And we are now about to go off the record, unless someone has another comment on this vote.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Could we have Raimundo restate his comment just to make sure that we have that on the record.

>>VINT CERF: Go ahead, Raimundo.

>>RAIMUNDO BECA: My comment is the following: I am opposed to vote now on this -- on this committee because I want to see the total picture of all the committees.

>>VINT CERF: Okay. Thank you, Raimundo.

All right. We're going to move on to the next item now.

Authorization of Insurance Binder

(Off-the-record discussion)

>>VINT CERF: Once again, I'll ask for a voice vote.

All those in favor of this resolution, please say "aye."

>> Aye.

>>VINT CERF: Are there any opposed?

Are there any abstentions?

Mr. Secretary, on the record, this resolution is passed unanimously by the participants in this call.

Thank you very much.

Payment of Legal Expenses

(Off-the-record discussion)

>>VINT CERF: Okay. If there are no other questions or comments, I will call for a vote.

We are entering into the recorded part of the session.

All those in favor of the proposed resolution to pay these legal fees, please say "aye."

>> Aye.

>>VINT CERF: Is there anyone opposed?

Are there any abstentions?

Okay. Mr. Secretary, in addition to having approved the payment of the legal fees, would you kindly walk through the voting members of the board to make sure we know who is still on the call and participated in the vote.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Yes, I certainly will.

Raimundo Beca?

Raimundo, are you present?

>>RAIMUNDO BECA: Yes.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Mouhamet Diop?

>>KURT PRITZ: There he goes.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Mouhamet, are you present?

>> Hello.

>> He just came off mute.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Mouhamet, are you present?

>>MOUHAMET DIOP: Yes, I am present.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Okay. Thank you.

Demi Getschko?

>>KURT PRITZ: He just dropped off.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Hagen Hultzsch?

>> HAGEN HULTZSCH: Yes.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Joichi Ito?

>>JOICHI ITO: Yes.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Veni Markovski?

>>VENI MARKOVSKI: Here.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Tom Niles?

>>THOMAS NILES: Yes.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Mike Palage?

>>MICHAEL PALAGE: Here.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Alejandro Pisanty?

>>ALEJANDRO PISANTY: Here.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Njeri Rionge?

>>NJERI RIONGE: I'm here.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Vanda Scartezini?

>>VANDA SCARTEZINI: Yes.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Thank you.

Peter Dengate Thrush?

>>PETER DENGATE THRUSH: Yes.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Paul Twomey?

>>PAUL TWOMEY: Yes.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: Should I also call the liaisons to see who's present?

>>VINT CERF: No, you don't need to do that.

And this is Vint Cerf. I am here.

Okay. I'm gathering, folks that because of the difficulty of knowing who's on and who isn't on that we're going to have to do a roll-call vote for all of these just to make sure we know who is present and how many votes were actually cast.

I'm sorry to string this out more.

Thank you for that.

Authorization to Enter Addendum to Marina del Rey Lease

(Off-the-record discussion.)

>>VINT CERF: All right. We're going to do a voice -- roll-call vote.

Veni, how would you vote on this?

>>VENI MARKOVSKI: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Joi Ito?

Joichi Ito?

>>JOICHI ITO: Yep.

>>VINT CERF: Thank you.

Mike Palage?

>>MICHAEL PALAGE: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Alex Pisanty.

>>ALEJANDRO PISANTY: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Paul Twomey?

>>PAUL TWOMEY: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Hagen Hultzsch?

>>HAGEN HULTZSCH: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Vanda Scartezini?

>>VANDA SCARTEZINI: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Demi Getschko?

>>DEMI GETSCHKO: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Vint Cerf votes "yes."

Raimundo Beca?

>>RAIMUNDO BECA: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Hualin Qian?

Just checking to see if he's on.

Mouhamet Diop, how do you vote?

>>MOUHAMET DIOP: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Peter Dengate Thrush?

>>PETER DENGATE THRUSH: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Tom Niles?

>>THOMAS NILES: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: And Njeri Rionge?

[discussion of technical difficulty for Njeri Rionge]

All right. So I think if she fell off, we will just record that as a nonvote. We still have more than enough to pass, so the action passes.

And I thank you for that. Our folks need some room there.

(Off-the-record discussion.)

>>VINT CERF: In that case, I will call for a vote. And we'll do a roll call again.

Veni, how do you vote?

>>VENI MARKOVSKI: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Joi Ito?

>>JOICHI ITO: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Mike Palage?

>>MICHAEL PALAGE: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Alex Pisanty?

>>ALEJANDRO PISANTY: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Paul Twomey?

>>PAUL TWOMEY: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Hagen Hultzsch?

>>HAGEN HULTZSCH: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Vanda Scartezini?

>>VANDA SCARTEZINI: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Demi Getschko?

>>DEMI GETSCHKO: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Vint Cerf votes "yes."

Raimundo Beca?

>>RAIMUNDO BECA: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Hualin Qian? Not present.

Mouhamet Diop?

>>MOUHAMET DIOP: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Peter Dengate Thrush?

>>PETER DENGATE THRUSH: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Tom Niles?

>>THOMAS NILES: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: And is Njeri Rionge back?

Njeri, are you there?

>>VINT CERF: Well, I wonder -- well, I don't know what to make of that.

Thank you. That takes care of item number five.

Review and Consideration of Policy Development Process Results and Public Comments for "Procedure for use by ICANN in considering requests for consent and related contractual amendments to allow changes in the architecture or operation of a gTLD registry"

(Off-the-record discussion)

>>VINT CERF: If you vote in favor of this resolution, you will essentially be adopting a new procedure for the way in which we treat requests for creation of a gTLD.

So if you vote in favor, you will be adopting what I believe to be an improvement over previous practice.

So let me --

>>PETER DENGATE THRUSH: Peter here.

>>VINT CERF: How do you vote --

Oh, we're on the record now, and we're voting --

>>PETER DENGATE THRUSH: Sorry, Vint.

>>VINT CERF: -- on procedure for use by ICANN in considering requests for consent and related contractual amendments to allow changes in the architecture or operation of a gTLD registry.

>>PETER DENGATE THRUSH: Vint, Peter here. Can I just make a comment?

>>VINT CERF: Yes, Peter.

>>PETER DENGATE THRUSH: I wonder whether before we vote on this it's necessary to recall the bylaw provisions, which aren't in my head, that relate to the board's authority and response in dealing with resolutions like this which come from a PDP of an SO, in particular, the GNSO.

The obligation here is -- put very simply, is to accept the resolution unless some supermajority of the board thinks that it's not in the best interests of ICANN or the community. And this is a rather special resolution in those terms because of the bylaw provisions.

>>VINT CERF: Which, if I'm -- take the point, means that an objection here would have to be strongly substantiated, given that it is, in effect, a consensus policy brought to us by the GNSO.

>>PETER DENGATE THRUSH: Yes.

As I recall the bylaw -- and I just haven't gone and looked it up -- it would take a majority -- I think a supermajority -- Mike will be able to recall exactly.

>>MICHAEL PALAGE: It's a supermajority. It's 70%.

>>PETER DENGATE THRUSH: -- of the board that would be required to oppose (inaudible). I thought it might be helpful to put it into that sort of bylaw context.

>>VINT CERF: Right.

So, how many would that require?

>>JOHN JEFFREY: We'd need at least --

>>MICHAEL PALAGE: Eleven.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: -- 11 to vote against --

>>VINT CERF: Yeah. Thank you.

>>JOHN JEFFREY: -- in order for it to be rejected.

>>VINT CERF: Wow. Okay.

So, Peter, thank you for that reminder. And John and Michael, thank you for corroboration.

Let's go now to the formal voice vote.

(Interruption.)

[technical difficulties]

Joi Ito, are you there?

>>JOICHI ITO: Yes, I am.

>>VINT CERF: Joi?

>>JOICHI ITO: Yes, I'm here.

>>VINT CERF: Do you vote "yes"?

>>JOICHI ITO: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Thank you.

[technical difficulties]

>>VINT CERF: Mike Palage, how do you vote?

>>MICHAEL PALAGE: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Alex Pisanty?

>>ALEJANDRO PISANTY: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Paul Twomey?

Paul Twomey, how do you vote?

[technical difficulties]

I'll come back to Paul.

Hagen, how do you vote?

>> HAGEN HULTZSCH: Yes.

>>VENI MARKOVSKI: It's Veni. I'm sorry.

>>VINT CERF: Okay. How do you vote on this one, Veni?

>>VENI MARKOVSKI: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Thank you.

Hagen, I recorded a "yes."

>> HAGEN HULTZSCH: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Vanda Scartezini?

>>VANDA SCARTEZINI: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Demi Getschko? Demi?

>>DEMI GETSCHKO: Yes, I vote "yes."

>>VINT CERF: Thank you.

Vint Cerf votes "yes."

Raimundo Beca?

>>RAIMUNDO BECA: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Thank you. Hualin Qian, are you on the call? No [Vint indicating that Prof. Qian did not respond]

Mouhamet Diop, how do you vote?

>>MOUHAMET DIOP: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Thank you.

Peter?

>>PETER DENGATE THRUSH: I vote "yes."

>>VINT CERF: Tom Niles?

>>THOMAS NILES: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: And Njeri Rionge?

>>NJERI RIONGE: Okay.

>>VINT CERF: And you voted "yes"; is that right?

>>NJERI RIONGE: Yes. Correct.

>>VINT CERF: Paul Twomey, we did not hear your vote.

>>PAUL TWOMEY: I have, Vint, yes.

>>VINT CERF: Did you vote -- We didn't hear your vote on this. Are you voting "yes" or "no"?

>>PAUL TWOMEY: I voted "yes."

>>VINT CERF: Okay. All right.

So, thank you, we've unanimously passed that important piece of action.

Redelegation of .GS (South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands)

The next item has to do with the redelegation of South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands.

(Off-the-record discussion)

>>VINT CERF: If not, we'll go on the record to vote on the redelegation of the South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands to the government-sponsored organization which has undertaken the operation by way of the local university.

So I will step through once again, as usual, on a voice vote.

Veni, how do you vote?

>>VENI MARKOVSKI: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Joi Ito?

>>JOICHI ITO: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Thank you.

Mike Palage?

>>MICHAEL PALAGE: Yes, Vint.

And I just want the following note appended to my vote.

I note for the record the second U.S. principle on the Internet domain name and addressing system, which state, "Governments have a legitimate interest in the management of their ccTLDs."

I also note the need for ICANN and IANA to move forward expeditiously with the translation of these key redelegation documents in multiple languages to help countries, particularly developing countries, in this vital task.

>>VINT CERF: Thank you, Michael.

Alex Pisanty?

>>ALEJANDRO PISANTY: Vint, I will abstain.

>>VINT CERF: Do you wish to say why you're abstaining?

>>ALEJANDRO PISANTY: Yes.

I fully trust the due diligence that has been made by the -- by ICANN staff, but I'm not convinced that the situation -- that the incumbents have freely expressed their view to yield -- not to yield, but their view to a transition.

>>VINT CERF: I see. Thank you.

Paul Twomey?

Paul Twomey?

>>PAUL TWOMEY: Yes.

Yes.

>>VINT CERF: You vote "yes"; is that correct?

>>PAUL TWOMEY: I vote "yes."

>>VINT CERF: All right.

Hagen Hultzsch?

>> HAGEN HULTZSCH: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Vanda Scartezini?

>>VANDA SCARTEZINI: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Demi Getschko?

>>DEMI GETSCHKO: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: I recorded that as a "yes." Is that correct?

>>DEMI GETSCHKO: Yes.

>>VANDA SCARTEZINI: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Thank you.

Vint Cerf votes "yes."

Raimundo Beca?

>>RAIMUNDO BECA: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Mouhamet Diop?

>>MOUHAMET DIOP: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Peter Dengate Thrush?

>>PETER DENGATE THRUSH: I'll abstain, adopting the reasons given eloquently by Alejandro Pisanty.

>>VINT CERF: Thank you.

Tom Niles?

>>THOMAS NILES: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: And Njeri Rionge?

Njeri, are you with us or are you muted?

I'm not hearing Njeri. Is anyone else hearing Njeri?

>>KURT PRITZ: No.

>>VANDA SCARTEZINI: No.

>>KURT PRITZ: She dropped off in there. And they've called her back several times and are still trying.

>>VINT CERF: All right. For purposes of this vote, Njeri is not on the call.

I have two abstentions and -- one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten -- 11 "yeses."

All right. So, now, we have a problem, because we have a half an hour left and many more actions than can be fitted into that time. And so I'm struggling a little bit with prioritization.

Proposed ICANN Bylaws Changes on Interim ALAC's Certification of At-Large Structures

(Off-the-record discussion.)

>>VINT CERF: Okay. We'll go on the record voting for or against the publication of the proposed amendments to the bylaws on how the Interim At-Large Advisory Committee certifies groups as at-large structures.

Let me just quickly take a roll-call vote.

Veni, how do you vote?

>>VENI MARKOVSKI: Yes, I vote "yes."

>>VINT CERF: Joi?

>>JOICHI ITO: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Mike?

>>MIKE PALAGE: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Alex Pisanty?

>>ALEJANDRO PISANTY: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Paul Twomey?

>>PAUL TWOMEY: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Hagen Hultzsch?

>> HAGEN HULTZSCH: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Vanda Scartezini?

>>VANDA SCARTEZINI: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Demi Getschko?

>>DEMI GETSCHKO: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Vint Cerf votes "yes."

Raimundo Beca?

>>RAIMUNDO BECA: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Mouhamet Diop?

>>MOUHAMET DIOP: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Mouhamet.

Peter Dengate Thrush?

>>PETER DENGATE THRUSH: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: Tom Niles?

>>THOMAS NILES: Yes.

>>VINT CERF: And, Njeri, are you on?

Njeri's not on.

Okay. Thank you for that.

And thank you, Roberto, for insisting on getting that onto the agenda.

Well, now we have two minutes left.

>>ALEJANDRO PISANTY: IDNs.

>>VINT CERF: Yeah, IDNs.

(Off-the-record discussion on item number 11.)

>>VINT CERF: Okay. So if you vote in favor of this, you will essentially be saying that we want the IDN committee to do something by the time of Morocco, and that in nine months' time, this endorsement will go away and we will insist on having something better.

All right. So let me ask, all those in favor, please say "aye."

>> Aye.

>>VINT CERF: Are there any opposed?

Are there any abstentions?

Thank you, Michael, for pushing that one through.

I have to declare the meeting adjourned.

Thank you for getting through what looks like nine or ten items today, which I thought was impossible.

See you folks on the Net and again in Vancouver.

>> Thank you.

>>VINT CERF: Meeting is adjourn.

>> HAGEN HULTZSCH: All best to everybody.

(3:09 p.m.)

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